New crate engine is now a steam engine....bad problem...
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Melting Slicks
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Truck just left with the motor! It should be in Marshall's hands by Monday according to the driver!!
Just think, this could be a publicity stunt orchestrated by Marshall Engines!!! lol........JK............They can really win big here, or lose even bigger! We shall see.
Just think, this could be a publicity stunt orchestrated by Marshall Engines!!! lol........JK............They can really win big here, or lose even bigger! We shall see.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Madison Ms
Originally Posted by grayhook
Who did you find?? Was it Acey?? He's good, him and his bro have been building race cars around here for 25+ year's. 
Sell that ride yet?
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Hmmm... Decisions,decisions....safe bet might be letting Marshall give you what you ordered originally....resonably sure they would not want that to happen again..I would wait and see how this is handled at their end...you know the drill...
Peronally,I go by this:"once bitten...twice shy...."
Peronally,I go by this:"once bitten...twice shy...."
Burning Brakes
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im tellin ya someone here has to have connections with speilberg... we could even make it into like a trilogy.. or more! damn MSVETTE, i first read the last part of this thread and thought u were in jail, then i heard somethin about 'shot dog' and im like "what?? he shot a dog?? maybe someones at blueprint!! 
", but then i looked and saw what really happend, sucks.. i agreed w/ u. that guy was a bit of a ***** saying that to someone who just lost a dog, i accidentally killed one of my chihuhua's one day when i was comming home, little basted was to shot for me to see and he didnt hear the car comming(wasnt the vette), sun glare made it impossible to see directly infront of me and then boom.. snaped his neck.. 
but anyway,, sorry to get off subject..
L8er
", but then i looked and saw what really happend, sucks.. i agreed w/ u. that guy was a bit of a ***** saying that to someone who just lost a dog, i accidentally killed one of my chihuhua's one day when i was comming home, little basted was to shot for me to see and he didnt hear the car comming(wasnt the vette), sun glare made it impossible to see directly infront of me and then boom.. snaped his neck.. but anyway,, sorry to get off subject.. L8er
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Welcome back, I'll admit I was cracking up over how addicted we are to the information flow on this one. Behave and don't put us through that again...at least not until the end of this story.
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I'd thank Blueprint for there time, and either get a refund or a partial refund and an unassembled engine.........
I would not accept a unit that they screwed together under any circumstances........
I would not accept a unit that they screwed together under any circumstances........
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Melting Slicks
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From: Madison Ms
Originally Posted by Zixxer
Welcome back, I'll admit I was cracking up over how addicted we are to the information flow on this one. Behave and don't put us through that again...at least not until the end of this story.
This thread may never end?? Imagine a happy ending, and it will probably disappear quickly. Now imagine if I get screwed..........I could see this thread topping over 300,000 view and a few thousand posts! Hopefully this will be resolved rather quickly. Of course everybody will be wanting to know if I'm unlucky enough to have two blow up???? The new install will be interesting whether a blueprint, or local.
I would really like the 383 upgrade! (hint:blueprint engines)
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why not ask them to break in what ever engine they send you....this way you don't have to worry about the wiping a lobe on the cam.
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Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by bobs77vet
why not ask them to break in what ever engine they send you....this way you don't have to worry about the wiping a lobe on the cam.
If they don't, refund only. I checked my original block and it's unmolested and never bored. Looks like it may have been honed out, and appears to be in great shap. I'll build local if they don't satisfy me, or they deny my claim.
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Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
I'll build local if they don't satisfy me, or they deny my claim.
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Melting Slicks
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WTF.........the bastages are getting defensive now......see email and reply below.....
Me:
And.........the motor was actually a 357 not a 355 as advertised. The bore
was 40 over instead of 30 over. Gaps and clearance had a little slop in
them, but not much.
Gap was .028 on most, and should have been .0268, and clearance was .003,
which is slighty over the recommended clearance from KB.
Them (product manager):
Our BP3550CT is remanufactured with a .040 over bore. I checked through our
literature on it and could not find anything stating it should have a .030
over bore. If you have information from Marsahll Engine's saying it should
have a .030 over bore I would like to see it so that I could get the
information corrected.
Thanks,
Mike Gana
Then my reply again:
The link below says base 355 Vortec. A 355 in the industry (at least down
this way) is known as .030 over bore. A 357 is typically a .040 over bore.
I could find no reference to a .040 over bore, so one would reasonably
assume that your 355 was indeed a .030 over bore.
Just pointing it out. I wanted to make sure you knew that what I received
was a .040 bore in case that was a mistake.
Anyway, it's misleading and confusing as well as your dyno statement.
Brian
http://www.blueprintengines.com/popu...specs&pc_id=23
WTF? am I wrong here?
Me:
And.........the motor was actually a 357 not a 355 as advertised. The bore
was 40 over instead of 30 over. Gaps and clearance had a little slop in
them, but not much.
Gap was .028 on most, and should have been .0268, and clearance was .003,
which is slighty over the recommended clearance from KB.
Them (product manager):
Our BP3550CT is remanufactured with a .040 over bore. I checked through our
literature on it and could not find anything stating it should have a .030
over bore. If you have information from Marsahll Engine's saying it should
have a .030 over bore I would like to see it so that I could get the
information corrected.
Thanks,
Mike Gana
Then my reply again:
The link below says base 355 Vortec. A 355 in the industry (at least down
this way) is known as .030 over bore. A 357 is typically a .040 over bore.
I could find no reference to a .040 over bore, so one would reasonably
assume that your 355 was indeed a .030 over bore.
Just pointing it out. I wanted to make sure you knew that what I received
was a .040 bore in case that was a mistake.
Anyway, it's misleading and confusing as well as your dyno statement.
Brian
http://www.blueprintengines.com/popu...specs&pc_id=23
WTF? am I wrong here?
Melting Slicks
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hate to say it but it usually turns out that as soon as a company get a product back after putting on a front and being nice they ususally turn around and try to make it seem like your fault and get defensive. if they dont make this right i can tell you one person that will scratch their name off the list as a place to order an engine from. 
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As far as I understand it, your calculations are correct. A .030 over bore makes it a 355.
Wait a second....maybe they put in a shorter stroke crank to compensate for the extra 2 c.i. the .040 over bore would create.
Wait a second....maybe they put in a shorter stroke crank to compensate for the extra 2 c.i. the .040 over bore would create.
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Melting Slicks
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I may be coming on a little strong, but.........(I tend to be this way, especially in playing poker, and then end result is I usually get my teeth kicked in)..........I sent this email just now.......
Me:
Mike........consider this.......
You may want to get your boss involved in this situation. You could turn my
problem into a big bonus for your company if you handle this properly. The
message board I referred you to earlier and the message string now has over
46,235 views and 893 comments and replies concerning my situation.
Let's turn a loser for one of us, into a winner for both!! You can't buy
that type of advertising, at any price. Let your boss know Mike.
Brian
Me:
Mike........consider this.......
You may want to get your boss involved in this situation. You could turn my
problem into a big bonus for your company if you handle this properly. The
message board I referred you to earlier and the message string now has over
46,235 views and 893 comments and replies concerning my situation.
Let's turn a loser for one of us, into a winner for both!! You can't buy
that type of advertising, at any price. Let your boss know Mike.
Brian
Melting Slicks
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screw me once shame on you screw me twice shame on me. as soon as i feel like im being jerked around i stop doing business with that company just like on monday when i called scat and they tried jerking me around again. no matter how much i want something if i feel i am being jerked around i will cancel or refuse shipment of something and find a replacement with their competator 
sorry but my time is worth more than theirs and if i get jerked around i expect to be compensated for it and you better not tell me that the compensation is gonna be an overnight delivery cause that is BS and i will just laugh at you if that is the only thing that i am gonna get out something like that. i could see a 383 being totally reasonable and not asking for to much sense you had to go through all this. you should be out driving and enjoying your car and spending that time fixing other problems other than a so called new engine.
sorry but my time is worth more than theirs and if i get jerked around i expect to be compensated for it and you better not tell me that the compensation is gonna be an overnight delivery cause that is BS and i will just laugh at you if that is the only thing that i am gonna get out something like that. i could see a 383 being totally reasonable and not asking for to much sense you had to go through all this. you should be out driving and enjoying your car and spending that time fixing other problems other than a so called new engine.
Melting Slicks
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From: Beverly Massachusetts
Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
I may be coming on a little strong, but.........(I tend to be this way, especially in playing poker, and then end result is I usually get my teeth kicked in)..........I sent this email just now.......
Me:
Mike........consider this.......
You may want to get your boss involved in this situation. You could turn my
problem into a big bonus for your company if you handle this properly. The
message board I referred you to earlier and the message string now has over
46,235 views and 893 comments and replies concerning my situation.
Let's turn a loser for one of us, into a winner for both!! You can't buy
that type of advertising, at any price. Let your boss know Mike.
Brian
Me:
Mike........consider this.......
You may want to get your boss involved in this situation. You could turn my
problem into a big bonus for your company if you handle this properly. The
message board I referred you to earlier and the message string now has over
46,235 views and 893 comments and replies concerning my situation.
Let's turn a loser for one of us, into a winner for both!! You can't buy
that type of advertising, at any price. Let your boss know Mike.
Brian
now your just being Mr. nice guy and most people will take advantage of that. just my .02 at this point i wouldnt be speaking with anyone other than the boss.
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St. Jude Donor '11, '16-'17
Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
WTF.........the bastages are getting defensive now......see email and reply below.....
Me:
And.........the motor was actually a 357 not a 355 as advertised. The bore
was 40 over instead of 30 over. Gaps and clearance had a little slop in
them, but not much.
Gap was .028 on most, and should have been .0268, and clearance was .003,
which is slighty over the recommended clearance from KB.
Me:
And.........the motor was actually a 357 not a 355 as advertised. The bore
was 40 over instead of 30 over. Gaps and clearance had a little slop in
them, but not much.
Gap was .028 on most, and should have been .0268, and clearance was .003,
which is slighty over the recommended clearance from KB.