Were all pullin for ya!!!
New crate engine is now a steam engine....bad problem...
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From: Springhill Kansas
Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
We may have to do that 
(at the track of course).
.........
If I get the 383, (I'm not expecting anything), you're in trouble!! at his point, I'm just ready to 
Hey, don't forget the crawfish boil, April 8th, a week from this Saturday. And all vettsters around the area are invited!! I would like to see some of your cars!! Maybe we can have a burnout contest on the private roads!! Brett?
(at the track of course).
......... If I get the 383, (I'm not expecting anything), you're in trouble!!
at his point, I'm just ready to Hey, don't forget the crawfish boil, April 8th, a week from this Saturday. And all vettsters around the area are invited!! I would like to see some of your cars!! Maybe we can have a burnout contest on the private roads!! Brett?
Melting Slicks
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From: Green Valley Arizona
I just had to post onto this thread....
Like others have said, I started reading this thread and can't wait for the outcome.
To MVM: I hope that you get an upgrade engine as a replacement, but in reality I expect that the most they offer you is a replacement of what you had ordered, the so called 355. At that I would ask for a refund, to which I think they will offer a partial one....no refund on shipping cost of sending you the engine. From there you have to decide how much the battle is worth to you.
I sure hope I am wrong about this and they do take care of you with a nice 383.
I am not in the market for an engine, just rebuilt my own, but regardless of the outcome, I will never buy from this company. I should have bought the GM 350 crate engine....wouild have been less than what I ended up spending on my engine and would have gotten more.
Keeping my finger crossed for ya....
LannyL81
To MVM: I hope that you get an upgrade engine as a replacement, but in reality I expect that the most they offer you is a replacement of what you had ordered, the so called 355. At that I would ask for a refund, to which I think they will offer a partial one....no refund on shipping cost of sending you the engine. From there you have to decide how much the battle is worth to you.
I sure hope I am wrong about this and they do take care of you with a nice 383.
I am not in the market for an engine, just rebuilt my own, but regardless of the outcome, I will never buy from this company. I should have bought the GM 350 crate engine....wouild have been less than what I ended up spending on my engine and would have gotten more.
Keeping my finger crossed for ya....
LannyL81
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Melting Slicks
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From: Madison Ms
Once again, thanks for the kind comments guys!!
New info.: They will get the motor today, just checked tracking number again.......
Pro Number: I692864991
Web Pro #:
Pro #:
Pickup Date: 03/23/06
Origin: CANTON, MS
Destination: KEARNEY, NE
Pieces: 1
Weight: 535
Status: OUT FOR DEL, STOP 1 ESTIMATED DELIVERY DATE 03/28/06
New info.: They will get the motor today, just checked tracking number again.......
Pro Number: I692864991
Web Pro #:
Pro #:
Pickup Date: 03/23/06
Origin: CANTON, MS
Destination: KEARNEY, NE
Pieces: 1
Weight: 535
Status: OUT FOR DEL, STOP 1 ESTIMATED DELIVERY DATE 03/28/06
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From: Algonac Michigan
Sorry about getting off track here but,,,,Paul Borowski,who is that beautiful lady in your avitar??? 
Later,
Sly
Figured i'd ask as something to pass the time.....as we all WAIT! Oh and by the way,good luck MVM,I think you should get the stroker. If it was my shop you would,and I would be a HERO on this site and many others...(HINT TO BLUEPRINT/MARSHALL)
Later,
Sly
Figured i'd ask as something to pass the time.....as we all WAIT! Oh and by the way,good luck MVM,I think you should get the stroker. If it was my shop you would,and I would be a HERO on this site and many others...(HINT TO BLUEPRINT/MARSHALL)
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Originally Posted by jim2527
I think I'm the only CF member that hasnt replied so...WTF..1 hour and 45 minutes to read all of this. Thanks alot for posting the pic in OT......My dinner is cold now.
Took me over 3 hours.
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Originally Posted by jim2527
I think I'm the only CF member that hasnt replied so...WTF..1 hour and 45 minutes to read all of this. Thanks alot for posting the pic in OT......My dinner is cold now.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Madison Ms
Rut row......truck must have got lost.......1st stop, and not shown delivered yet.......sob stole my motor....lol.......wouldn't that be sweet.
Pro Number: I692864991
Web Pro #:
Pro #:
Pickup Date: 03/23/06
Origin: CANTON, MS
Destination: KEARNEY, NE
Pieces: 1
Weight: 535
Status: OUT FOR DEL, STOP 1 ESTIMATED DELIVERY DATE 03/28/06
Pro Number: I692864991
Web Pro #:
Pro #:
Pickup Date: 03/23/06
Origin: CANTON, MS
Destination: KEARNEY, NE
Pieces: 1
Weight: 535
Status: OUT FOR DEL, STOP 1 ESTIMATED DELIVERY DATE 03/28/06
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Melting Slicks
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From: Madison Ms
Interesting, a member of the chevy board sent an email to blueprint and below is his post, and their response. Can you say bend over?
Here's the reply I got from an e-mail I sent the company because I was curious as to their side. As follows:
Bryan:
What forum did you see it on? We are aware of this and I can tell you that
things like this are just like a bunch of women sitting around the beauty
parlor gossiping about what is going on. The facts of the matter are as
follows:
1.) Customer drove car with engine installed after dropping distributor in
an not timing it! What does this say about the installer?
2.) Just like Wal-Mart if you want to return something you have to return
the product to where you purchased it from before anything can happen. This
has not happened as of yet.
3.) The engine was in fact dyno'd as all of our engines are dyno'd. The
issue with the dyno sheet is that it was not a DTS dyno sheet. We dyno all
engines on a run in dyno and verify that the horsepower and torque is at or
above what we advertise it to be and we send out a standard dyno sheet that
is not a DTS dyno sheet. We do not miss lead anyone or lie about the
process that we do.
4.) All engines are built in house. We do not sub let any work on our
Blueprint Line. Blueprint is one Division of Marshall Engines and we have
exacting tolerances for the line and great success.
5.) Warranty percentage rate on the Blueprint line is below industry
average because we dyno test every engine.
6.) I personally believe in the product and the customer service for this
company, not just because I work here but because it is in fact the way that
we say it is. The problem that the customer has is un fortunate but that is
why their is a warranty on the product because anything mechanical can have
a parts or workmanship problem. We honor it. I have even seen Blueprint
engines go the extra mile for a customer that lost an engine because of
something that they did. We repaired the engine for him at cost and the
customer was estacic.
7.) Why someone would get a bunch of people in an up roar when they have
not even followed the warranty instructions or the installation instructions
is beyond me unless he has something to hide. The customer has not been 100
% up front with us and this concerns me. What else concerns me is that I
have no problem with a third party looking at the engine to determine
failure. If I had something to hide why would we allow that?
Purchasing a Blueprint engine is the right answer because it is the best
value on the market today. You are more then welcome to come to the plant
and see what we do. We have nothing to hide.
Keith Kirk
Product Manager
Sounds PO'd and passionate about his company. I won't even touch the first three words of number 2 though.
--------------------
1963 Impala 6 passenger wagon
1963 Bel Air 2 door post
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/635955
Here's the reply I got from an e-mail I sent the company because I was curious as to their side. As follows:
Bryan:
What forum did you see it on? We are aware of this and I can tell you that
things like this are just like a bunch of women sitting around the beauty
parlor gossiping about what is going on. The facts of the matter are as
follows:
1.) Customer drove car with engine installed after dropping distributor in
an not timing it! What does this say about the installer?
2.) Just like Wal-Mart if you want to return something you have to return
the product to where you purchased it from before anything can happen. This
has not happened as of yet.
3.) The engine was in fact dyno'd as all of our engines are dyno'd. The
issue with the dyno sheet is that it was not a DTS dyno sheet. We dyno all
engines on a run in dyno and verify that the horsepower and torque is at or
above what we advertise it to be and we send out a standard dyno sheet that
is not a DTS dyno sheet. We do not miss lead anyone or lie about the
process that we do.
4.) All engines are built in house. We do not sub let any work on our
Blueprint Line. Blueprint is one Division of Marshall Engines and we have
exacting tolerances for the line and great success.
5.) Warranty percentage rate on the Blueprint line is below industry
average because we dyno test every engine.
6.) I personally believe in the product and the customer service for this
company, not just because I work here but because it is in fact the way that
we say it is. The problem that the customer has is un fortunate but that is
why their is a warranty on the product because anything mechanical can have
a parts or workmanship problem. We honor it. I have even seen Blueprint
engines go the extra mile for a customer that lost an engine because of
something that they did. We repaired the engine for him at cost and the
customer was estacic.
7.) Why someone would get a bunch of people in an up roar when they have
not even followed the warranty instructions or the installation instructions
is beyond me unless he has something to hide. The customer has not been 100
% up front with us and this concerns me. What else concerns me is that I
have no problem with a third party looking at the engine to determine
failure. If I had something to hide why would we allow that?
Purchasing a Blueprint engine is the right answer because it is the best
value on the market today. You are more then welcome to come to the plant
and see what we do. We have nothing to hide.
Keith Kirk
Product Manager
Sounds PO'd and passionate about his company. I won't even touch the first three words of number 2 though.
--------------------
1963 Impala 6 passenger wagon
1963 Bel Air 2 door post
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/635955
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Melting Slicks
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From: Madison Ms
This part kills me.......... 
"I have even seen Blueprint
engines go the extra mile for a customer that lost an engine because of
something that they did. We repaired the engine for him at cost and the
customer was estacic." Quote from Keith Kirk, Product Manager of Blueprint Engines.
Estacic? You repaired his motor at cost, that he supposably tore up, and he was Estacic? (sic).
"I have even seen Blueprint
engines go the extra mile for a customer that lost an engine because of
something that they did. We repaired the engine for him at cost and the
customer was estacic." Quote from Keith Kirk, Product Manager of Blueprint Engines.
Estacic? You repaired his motor at cost, that he supposably tore up, and he was Estacic? (sic).
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From: Arlington Va Current ride 04 vert, previous vettes: 69 vert, 77 resto mod
well other then "1" and parts of "7" kind of being a cheap shot his reply is not inappropriate....i think everyone has acted responsibly so far...keep it civil and i think you will have a good outcome
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Melting Slicks
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From: Madison Ms
Complete rebuttal below....my comments are in bold.
I'M WAY TO PISSED TO CONTINUE.........
Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
Interesting, a member of the chevy board sent an email to blueprint and below is his post, and their response. Can you say bend over?
Here's the reply I got from an e-mail I sent the company because I was curious as to their side. As follows:
Bryan:
What forum did you see it on? We are aware of this and I can tell you that
things like this are just like a bunch of women sitting around the beauty
parlor gossiping about what is going on. The facts of the matter are as
follows:
1.) Customer drove car with engine installed after dropping distributor in
an not timing it! What does this say about the installer?
I WAS NEVER, REPEAT NEVER ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT MY TIMING WHEN QUESTIONED BY YOU CLAIMS PEOPLE. NEVER. I TOLD THE TRUTH HERE, AND IT'S THE TRUTH. SO NOW YOU AUTOMATICALLY PUT THE BLAME ON ME? HOW DO YOU KNOW THE TIMING WASN'T CORRECT?
2.) Just like Wal-Mart if you want to return something you have to return
the product to where you purchased it from before anything can happen. This
has not happened as of yet.
ARE YOU COMPARING YOUR COMPANY TO WALMART? I'LL LEAVE THIS ALONE.
3.) The engine was in fact dyno'd as all of our engines are dyno'd. The
issue with the dyno sheet is that it was not a DTS dyno sheet. We dyno all
engines on a run in dyno and verify that the horsepower and torque is at or
above what we advertise it to be and we send out a standard dyno sheet that
is not a DTS dyno sheet. We do not miss lead anyone or lie about the
process that we do.
WHAT? YOU ARE STILL SAYING YOUR ADVERTISING ISN'T MISLEADING? HOLY CRAP. AND YOU STATE THAT PUBLICALLY?
4.) All engines are built in house. We do not sub let any work on our
Blueprint Line. Blueprint is one Division of Marshall Engines and we have
exacting tolerances for the line and great success.
ONLY PROBLEM IS, MINE WAS SHIPPED FROM A COMPANY CALLED GOODMAN AUTO REPAIR, IN PLATTE CITY, MO.
5.) Warranty percentage rate on the Blueprint line is below industry
average because we dyno test every engine.
YOU DO?
6.) I personally believe in the product and the customer service for this
company, not just because I work here but because it is in fact the way that
we say it is. The problem that the customer has is un fortunate but that is
why their is a warranty on the product because anything mechanical can have
a parts or workmanship problem. We honor it. I have even seen Blueprint
engines go the extra mile for a customer that lost an engine because of
something that they did. We repaired the engine for him at cost and the
customer was estacic.
ALREADY REPLIED TO THE ESTACIC COMMENT.
7.) Why someone would get a bunch of people in an up roar when they have
not even followed the warranty instructions or the installation instructions
is beyond me unless he has something to hide. The customer has not been 100
% up front with us and this concerns me. What else concerns me is that I
have no problem with a third party looking at the engine to determine
failure. If I had something to hide why would we allow that?
Purchasing a Blueprint engine is the right answer because it is the best
value on the market today. You are more then welcome to come to the plant
and see what we do. We have nothing to hide.
Keith Kirk
Product Manager
Sounds PO'd and passionate about his company. I won't even touch the first three words of number 2 though.
--------------------
1963 Impala 6 passenger wagon
1963 Bel Air 2 door post
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/635955
Here's the reply I got from an e-mail I sent the company because I was curious as to their side. As follows:
Bryan:
What forum did you see it on? We are aware of this and I can tell you that
things like this are just like a bunch of women sitting around the beauty
parlor gossiping about what is going on. The facts of the matter are as
follows:
1.) Customer drove car with engine installed after dropping distributor in
an not timing it! What does this say about the installer?
I WAS NEVER, REPEAT NEVER ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT MY TIMING WHEN QUESTIONED BY YOU CLAIMS PEOPLE. NEVER. I TOLD THE TRUTH HERE, AND IT'S THE TRUTH. SO NOW YOU AUTOMATICALLY PUT THE BLAME ON ME? HOW DO YOU KNOW THE TIMING WASN'T CORRECT?
2.) Just like Wal-Mart if you want to return something you have to return
the product to where you purchased it from before anything can happen. This
has not happened as of yet.
ARE YOU COMPARING YOUR COMPANY TO WALMART? I'LL LEAVE THIS ALONE.
3.) The engine was in fact dyno'd as all of our engines are dyno'd. The
issue with the dyno sheet is that it was not a DTS dyno sheet. We dyno all
engines on a run in dyno and verify that the horsepower and torque is at or
above what we advertise it to be and we send out a standard dyno sheet that
is not a DTS dyno sheet. We do not miss lead anyone or lie about the
process that we do.
WHAT? YOU ARE STILL SAYING YOUR ADVERTISING ISN'T MISLEADING? HOLY CRAP. AND YOU STATE THAT PUBLICALLY?
4.) All engines are built in house. We do not sub let any work on our
Blueprint Line. Blueprint is one Division of Marshall Engines and we have
exacting tolerances for the line and great success.
ONLY PROBLEM IS, MINE WAS SHIPPED FROM A COMPANY CALLED GOODMAN AUTO REPAIR, IN PLATTE CITY, MO.
5.) Warranty percentage rate on the Blueprint line is below industry
average because we dyno test every engine.
YOU DO?
6.) I personally believe in the product and the customer service for this
company, not just because I work here but because it is in fact the way that
we say it is. The problem that the customer has is un fortunate but that is
why their is a warranty on the product because anything mechanical can have
a parts or workmanship problem. We honor it. I have even seen Blueprint
engines go the extra mile for a customer that lost an engine because of
something that they did. We repaired the engine for him at cost and the
customer was estacic.
ALREADY REPLIED TO THE ESTACIC COMMENT.
7.) Why someone would get a bunch of people in an up roar when they have
not even followed the warranty instructions or the installation instructions
is beyond me unless he has something to hide. The customer has not been 100
% up front with us and this concerns me. What else concerns me is that I
have no problem with a third party looking at the engine to determine
failure. If I had something to hide why would we allow that?
Purchasing a Blueprint engine is the right answer because it is the best
value on the market today. You are more then welcome to come to the plant
and see what we do. We have nothing to hide.
Keith Kirk
Product Manager
Sounds PO'd and passionate about his company. I won't even touch the first three words of number 2 though.
--------------------
1963 Impala 6 passenger wagon
1963 Bel Air 2 door post
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/635955
Last edited by MsVetteMan; Mar 29, 2006 at 10:03 AM.