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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 12:57 AM
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I have the entire wiring harness on a large map-style page that I bought from Eckler's.... it's saved my bacon more times - and I've eliminated or changed 50% of the wiring on my car.... buy one, they're like 20 bucks
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 10:33 AM
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Once you get your vac advance hooked up and all the vacuum lines attached or plugged than you can move to the butt Dyno. Drive up hill at part throttle at @2500 rpm with a hot engine. Keep bumping the timing up until you hear pinging or you lose performance every performance built engine has it own sweet spot, its just up to you to find it. Kind of like a women

I'm assuming your mechanical advance and vac advance is working properly....
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hugie82
Once you get your vac advance hooked up and all the vacuum lines attached or plugged than you can move to the butt Dyno. Drive up hill at part throttle at @2500 rpm with a hot engine. Keep bumping the timing up until you hear pinging or you lose performance every performance built engine has it own sweet spot, its just up to you to find it. Kind of like a women

I'm assuming your mechanical advance and vac advance is working properly....
Cars are NOT like women.... with a Car, once you find its sweet spot it stays there for awhile. With a woman, once you find their sweet spot; they hide it.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 09:44 AM
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Where you've been Fatcat? How does that new dual exhaust sound?
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 09:46 AM
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Yeah, Fatcat's gone dark on us.... What gives FC?
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 09:58 AM
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Where you've been Fatcat? How does that new dual exhaust sound?
Sorry guys! It was a busy weekend with moms birthday and all. I just had a Y pipe put in but went to 2 1/2" pipe and it sounds great. It is still running hot and dies while driving and I got to figure that out.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 10:03 AM
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make sure your upper hose isn't trapping air.

and check your thermostat..... I went through 3 before I finally got one that opened. That's right, opened... at 220* then it works fine and stays at 180* (grumble)

birthdays over Corvette driving.... oh young man, we're so disappointed in the poor training that we've done - the only way to go to a birthday party is greasy
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperBuickGuy
make sure your upper hose isn't trapping air.

and check your thermostat..... I went through 3 before I finally got one that opened. That's right, opened... at 220* then it works fine and stays at 180* (grumble)

birthdays over Corvette driving.... oh young man, we're so disappointed in the poor training that we've done - the only way to go to a birthday party is greasy
HA! I have been greasy for months now! The running hot problem looks like this. I am running about 210*-220* tmp. I can see the thermostat open about 210 and the temp drops. When at idle I am running 190*-200* but driving 210*-220*. Birdsmith and I spoke and he suggested I go to a 180* thermostat and look into getting the shoud weatherstrip that is missing from my car.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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HA! I have been greasy for months now! The running hot problem looks like this. I am running about 210*-220* tmp. I can see the thermostat open about 210 and the temp drops. When at idle I am running 190*-200* but driving 210*-220*. Birdsmith and I spoke and he suggested I go to a 180* thermostat and look into getting the shoud weatherstrip that is missing from my car.
Check your radiator to make sure it's clean inside and out - you added hp, so you are creating more heat
be sure your radiator isn't blocked - air travels from under the chin and into the radiator.... not so much through the front grills.
be sure that if you have a fan, it's shroud is also attached
be sure that if you have a fan, the thermostat in the fan works (clutch fans)
be sure that the air dam is on under the car
be sure that the air block on top of the radiator (which fills the space between the radiator and core support is blocked

if that doesn't work

go out for another drive, but this time with the hood unlatched.... it's possible, in a very crowded engine compartment, that you're not getting enough air out. If that's the case, unblock the vents on the side

those things solve about 90% of the issues
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Originally Posted by FatCat
HA! I have been greasy for months now! The running hot problem looks like this. I am running about 210*-220* tmp. I can see the thermostat open about 210 and the temp drops. When at idle I am running 190*-200* but driving 210*-220*. Birdsmith and I spoke and he suggested I go to a 180* thermostat and look into getting the shoud weatherstrip that is missing from my car.
You have to start with the basics when running hot. Check the foam inserts on the sides of the radiator, clutch is fully engaging ( should be hard to turn when hot), watch the water in the radiator as it warms up and watch for flow when the thermostat opens and on some vette's they will get an air pocket in the block. I found parking the car on a step incline (like a loading ramp at a truck dock) get it hot and rev it a few times. Also timing should be adjusted by now but if its off 6-7 degrees it will affect temps.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 01:07 PM
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There is nothing between the top of radiator and shroud (never was since I have had it) the weatherstrip on the side are somewhat there. The fan clutch appears to be working correctly. Not sure what the air dam under the car looks like but will check it out tonight to see if I can figure it out tonight. Until I ge this figured out I am dead in the water because I am afraid to drive it. It hasn't overheated but sure scary. Once I get through this, I can address the drivability issue of dies while driving. A for watching the coolant flow, man if I don't put the cap on when running, it shoots coolant across the garage after a few minutes.

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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 01:12 PM
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the absolute best choice is getting a fan shroud.... though, they can be kind of spendy - so shopping would be a good idea.... baring that, try this



which looks like this at lay-out
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 01:15 PM
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I have a fan shroud just that all of the rubber is gone.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 02:02 PM
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Motors will run warmer than usual when they are braking in. Do get the seals that go over the top of the radiator support it did help mine out some
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 05:53 PM
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Dr. Rebuild sells all the seal kits for the radiator and core support...

BTW, remember awhile back during block prep when I reminded you of the importance of getting all the loose garbage out of those water jackets?
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by birdsmith
Dr. Rebuild sells all the seal kits for the radiator and core support...

BTW, remember awhile back during block prep when I reminded you of the importance of getting all the loose garbage out of those water jackets?
I did find those on Dr Rebuild! And yes I remember you said I will start a new thread on my overheating problem but I sure worked hard to not have that issue. Hahaha
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 08:12 PM
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Ok, so I hence posted about this problem which may be normal but I don't think it is. The vehicle had been running for 3-5 min and pushing coolant out but when I hit the throttle and idle down, well you will see. FYI this car was doing the same thing prior to the rebuild.
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Hey FC, concerning the overheating, does it do it while cruising around slowly or does it do it while running down the road at a fairly good clip.

the front air dam is critical for cooling on any car that doesn't have a front grill. I had a '86 TA that would run all day long around town or idleing, but put it on the highway and it would overheat within minutes. after much diging I found that the front spoiler had be knocked off before I got the car. I didn't even know it was supposed to be there until someone mentioned it. after spending $30 and a half hour, all was well at any speed.

just a thought.
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jig A Low
Hey FC, concerning the overheating, does it do it while cruising around slowly or does it do it while running down the road at a fairly good clip.

the front air dam is critical for cooling on any car that doesn't have a front grill. I had a '86 TA that would run all day long around town or idleing, but put it on the highway and it would overheat within minutes. after much diging I found that the front spoiler had be knocked off before I got the car. I didn't even know it was supposed to be there until someone mentioned it. after spending $30 and a half hour, all was well at any speed.

just a thought.

It hasn't overheated at this point but It's consistently running at 200-220 while driving any speed at idle it drops at times, to 180-190. But I'm worried about the water pushed out in the video and think it might be part of my problem.

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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 09:13 PM
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I don't think that 200 or 220 is that high IF you're running a 180* thermostat? and, you could also be getting some unreliable readings from the gauge.

as far as the "puking" goes, when exactly does it do it? during throttle up or throttle steady or throttle down?
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