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Let me repeat myself. If you can hear the starter solenoid click, then there isn't anything wrong with the solenoid. Your problem is with the copper contacts the solenoid forces together to switch current to the starter motor. You just spent $12 for nothing and just replacing the solenoid will not fix your problem.
where on the solenoid. or the starter motor are the copper contacts????????
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http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/densoparts.html
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The solenoid plunger when pulled in makes connection to two fixed contacts. The fixed contacts are replaceable and they do not come with the solenoid. Watch the video in this link:
http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/densoparts.html
http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/densoparts.html
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The solenoid plunger when pulled in makes connection to two fixed contacts. The fixed contacts are replaceable and they do not come with the solenoid. Watch the video in this link:
http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/densoparts.html
http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/densoparts.html
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the new solenoid have the copper contact inside. right. so if I change the solenoid my problem most be solve. as long as some new problem dont showup.
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I think your new solenoid will cure your no crank problem. If you measure the voltage on the bar that connects your starter solenoid to the starter motor and have someone hold the ign sw in crank for a moment, if you don't see 12v, then the contacts inside the old solenoid are bad and your new solenoid will cure your problem. If you have 12 v and no cranking, then the starter motor is defective.
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I think your new solenoid will cure your no crank problem. If you measure the voltage on the bar that connects your starter solenoid to the starter motor and have someone hold the ign sw in crank for a moment, if you don't see 12v, then the contacts inside the old solenoid are bad and your new solenoid will cure your problem. If you have 12 v and no cranking, then the starter motor is defective.
thank you will see on saturday
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change solenoid todAY. AND NOTHING not even the click now
Ok today I set out to change the starter solenoid. I was a lot of work. I endo up full of grase all over my body. to uninstall was very dificult. but that was nothing compare when is time to put it back in place.
anyway. I change the solenoid. and when I turn the key. nothing. this time not even hear the click . nothing. coming out of the starter.
I check the conections and I put them back the way it was in the old solenoid.
dont know what to do now.
here are a pictures of the new solenoid install.
2 wires conect to the center screew and one wire conected to the "S" terminal. the "R" terminal. was nothing. that extrage.
if any body can say something about this set up please advice
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Ok today I set out to change the starter solenoid. I was a lot of work. I endo up full of grase all over my body. to uninstall was very dificult. but that was nothing compare when is time to put it back in place.
anyway. I change the solenoid. and when I turn the key. nothing. this time not even hear the click . nothing. coming out of the starter.
I check the conections and I put them back the way it was in the old solenoid.
dont know what to do now.
here are a pictures of the new solenoid install.
2 wires conect to the center screew and one wire conected to the "S" terminal. the "R" terminal. was nothing. that extrage.
if any body can say something about this set up please advice
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Last edited by hitmanpty; Nov 26, 2011 at 07:28 PM.
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the big cable is the positive cable from battery. also on the same contact. there is aother cable under the battery cable. I just connected the way it was on the old solenoid
and a wire tothe "s" termina.
it cut my atention that I si no cable that go in the other contact mark as "R" on the solenoid.
may be I misted but I dont recall seen that cable on the old solenoid.
and a wire tothe "s" termina.
it cut my atention that I si no cable that go in the other contact mark as "R" on the solenoid.
may be I misted but I dont recall seen that cable on the old solenoid.
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Did you check the starter fuse.
I don’t believe any wire goes on the R terminal.
Yes, that’s what he is asking you. Check for 12 volts on S when the key is turned to crank the engine.
If you make this measurement and there is 12 volts there, then the solenoid is not working. Somehow the repair did not go correct and solenoid might be binding.
Did you replace the internal contacts. Does the plunger seem free to move in and out. You have to pull it apart to check that.
After another repair attempt you can bench test the solenoid portion. Connect 12 volts to the S terminal and the negative to the starter ground. That will test the solenoid action (movement) but will not tell you if the contact portion is working to pass the current to the starter.
If you get that far than you can reinstall and see if starter works.
If this becomes too much for you, but a starter.
I don’t believe any wire goes on the R terminal.
Yes, that’s what he is asking you. Check for 12 volts on S when the key is turned to crank the engine.
If you make this measurement and there is 12 volts there, then the solenoid is not working. Somehow the repair did not go correct and solenoid might be binding.
Did you replace the internal contacts. Does the plunger seem free to move in and out. You have to pull it apart to check that.
After another repair attempt you can bench test the solenoid portion. Connect 12 volts to the S terminal and the negative to the starter ground. That will test the solenoid action (movement) but will not tell you if the contact portion is working to pass the current to the starter.
If you get that far than you can reinstall and see if starter works.
If this becomes too much for you, but a starter.
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"crank mode". Creo que la palabra es «girar». Crank means to turn, as in turn over the engine, or start.
When you put the ignition switch in the START position, there should be 12 volts on terminal S. This voltage pulls in the solenoid and applies the 12 volts to the starter. As a test, you can connect BAT and S together with a screwdriver to see if the solenoid and starter work (there will be sparks when you do this).
Here's a link to the starting circuit diagram:
http://www.joestradingpost.com/vats/..._schematic.jpg
When you put the ignition switch in the START position, there should be 12 volts on terminal S. This voltage pulls in the solenoid and applies the 12 volts to the starter. As a test, you can connect BAT and S together with a screwdriver to see if the solenoid and starter work (there will be sparks when you do this).
Here's a link to the starting circuit diagram:
http://www.joestradingpost.com/vats/..._schematic.jpg