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Romney says Obama will erode the rights of gun owners in speech to NRA
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Joliet Right to Carry Town Hall Meeting
Thursday, April 26, 2012
7:00 - 9:00 p.m.
Renaissance Center
214 North Ottawa Street
Joliet, IL 60432
Thursday, April 26, 2012
7:00 - 9:00 p.m.
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Joliet, IL 60432
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Guns now allowed in Elkhart County (IN) parks -
http://www.southbendtribune.com/news...tory?track=rss
(WI) Man sues to get back gun used at grocery store
http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwauk...147687585.html
Uncle Ted...
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(WI) Man sues to get back gun used at grocery store
http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwauk...147687585.html
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Posen, IL Right-To-Carry Town Hall Meeting
Apr 20, 7PM - 9PM
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FROM LaShawn Ford Concealed Carry Task Force Meeting - Mar. 16, 2012
Members of the Task Force who were present:
LaShawn Ford
Rep. Mike Unes
Rep. Ed Sulllivan
Rep. of the IL FOP - stated the FOP is neutral on the issue
Greg Sullivan representing the IL Sheriffs Assoc.
Darin Clark of the Illinois State Police
Mark Walsh, Il. Council Against Handgun Violence
Rep. for the IL States Attorney Assoc.
Don Moran ISRA
Todd Vandermyde
Rep. Brandon Phelps
Questions LaShaw Ford asked at the end of Lott's presentation:
F: Are there any studies showing an increase in crime after CCW is passed?
L: No
F: Is there an increase in suicides after CCW is passed?
L: Some areas may see a slight increase in suicides committed with a firearm, but the number of overall suicides
do not increase.
F: Why do you think crime goes down after CCW?
L: Because of the increased risk for the criminal, they do not like to take the chance their victim is armed.
F: Do any of the states offer a sliding scale for those with low to no income?
L: Not that he was aware of - Lott had discussed the fact that with higher fees and longer training requirements
there is a drop in the number of CCW holders in the socioeconomic group that needs protection the most -
and that being the poor blacks who live in high crime areas.
Officer speaking on behalf of Chicago Police Dept. He said he was basically there to oppose CCW because of increased threat to officer safety. Officers would have to worry about every stop they make there might be a gun
present. If officer came up on a live shooting, they wouldn't be able to tell who was the good guy.
Ford: Aren't officers trained to responds as if everyone they encounter is armed?
Officer: yes
Ford: How do officers in the other 49 states deal with people who are carrying legally?
Officer: didn't know
Ford: If gun crime weren't so high in Chicago, would you support CCW?
Officer: couldn't say
Ford: Why is Chicago opposed to CCW?
Officer: It creates unsafe environment - more guns means more crime and increases threat to officer safety.
Todd pointed out at this time that the Chicago Sgt. and Lt. support CCW.
Todd: How many of the illegal guns you take off the street belong to FOID card holders? CPF holders? Registered?
Officer: Didn't know
States Att. Assoc. rep: Aren't officers trained to deal with a whole list of Constitutional Amend. everytime they encounter someone? (He listed a number of them).
Officer: Yes
States Att. Assoc. rep: If the 2nd Amend comes into play with CCW, what would you want included
in the law to help officers with this?
Officer: Couldn't say, I'm just here to oppose the bill.
Ford pointed out that CPD has not entered into the discussion of CCW, no cooperation. Suggested officer go
back and seek input from the CPD.
Sean Smoot - Illinois Police Benevolent and Protective Association - also represents CPD Sgts. and Lts. -
reported that 75% support CCW, goes to 85% when training and some sort of identifier is added to something
like the LEADS system. We're looking at 20% fewer officers on the street, early release of prisoners reduces the
deterrent factor for criminals plus more criminals on the street. Policies of Chicago not working. He is an
advocate for officer safety and ALL officers are trained to assume ALL encountered are armed.
Madison Co. State's Att. Tom Gibbons - strong support for CCW in his heavily populated area. Ban on carrying
is a failed experiment. Support increased in his area after carry was passed just across the river in
Missouri and seeing it did not create any problems there.
Pike Co. sheriff - Talked about the new poll out and how they must have left the 217 area code out off their
calling list because not only does Pike county have the opinion of "likely" voters, they actually voted and
85% of actual voters support CCW. If Chicago continues to oppose, why can't we go without them?
Officials from Peoria - this is the right time and the right thing to do. Same question about going without Chicago.
Tazwell Co. Sheriff - support widespread.
Stay at home mom - I want to be able to protect my children and when they are older I want them to be able
to protect themselves.
Dr. Wiffler - Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership - co-author with Dr. Tim Wheeler of "Keeping Your
Family Safe". Gave 12 reasons for CCW.
Lori Hamilton - Second Amendment Sisters - was asked by LaShawn Ford to present statistics on firearm deaths
and children. Did an effective job of presenting GunFacts.info material, especially that non-firearm
related fatalities far outnumber firearm related deaths but "we're not banning cars, draining our pools, or pulling our kids off the beaches."
Dr. Dan Mefford wrapped up the day with comments of wide spread support all across the state.
Members of the Task Force who were present:
LaShawn Ford
Rep. Mike Unes
Rep. Ed Sulllivan
Rep. of the IL FOP - stated the FOP is neutral on the issue
Greg Sullivan representing the IL Sheriffs Assoc.
Darin Clark of the Illinois State Police
Mark Walsh, Il. Council Against Handgun Violence
Rep. for the IL States Attorney Assoc.
Don Moran ISRA
Todd Vandermyde
Rep. Brandon Phelps
Questions LaShaw Ford asked at the end of Lott's presentation:
F: Are there any studies showing an increase in crime after CCW is passed?
L: No
F: Is there an increase in suicides after CCW is passed?
L: Some areas may see a slight increase in suicides committed with a firearm, but the number of overall suicides
do not increase.
F: Why do you think crime goes down after CCW?
L: Because of the increased risk for the criminal, they do not like to take the chance their victim is armed.
F: Do any of the states offer a sliding scale for those with low to no income?
L: Not that he was aware of - Lott had discussed the fact that with higher fees and longer training requirements
there is a drop in the number of CCW holders in the socioeconomic group that needs protection the most -
and that being the poor blacks who live in high crime areas.
Officer speaking on behalf of Chicago Police Dept. He said he was basically there to oppose CCW because of increased threat to officer safety. Officers would have to worry about every stop they make there might be a gun
present. If officer came up on a live shooting, they wouldn't be able to tell who was the good guy.
Ford: Aren't officers trained to responds as if everyone they encounter is armed?
Officer: yes
Ford: How do officers in the other 49 states deal with people who are carrying legally?
Officer: didn't know
Ford: If gun crime weren't so high in Chicago, would you support CCW?
Officer: couldn't say
Ford: Why is Chicago opposed to CCW?
Officer: It creates unsafe environment - more guns means more crime and increases threat to officer safety.
Todd pointed out at this time that the Chicago Sgt. and Lt. support CCW.
Todd: How many of the illegal guns you take off the street belong to FOID card holders? CPF holders? Registered?
Officer: Didn't know
States Att. Assoc. rep: Aren't officers trained to deal with a whole list of Constitutional Amend. everytime they encounter someone? (He listed a number of them).
Officer: Yes
States Att. Assoc. rep: If the 2nd Amend comes into play with CCW, what would you want included
in the law to help officers with this?
Officer: Couldn't say, I'm just here to oppose the bill.
Ford pointed out that CPD has not entered into the discussion of CCW, no cooperation. Suggested officer go
back and seek input from the CPD.
Sean Smoot - Illinois Police Benevolent and Protective Association - also represents CPD Sgts. and Lts. -
reported that 75% support CCW, goes to 85% when training and some sort of identifier is added to something
like the LEADS system. We're looking at 20% fewer officers on the street, early release of prisoners reduces the
deterrent factor for criminals plus more criminals on the street. Policies of Chicago not working. He is an
advocate for officer safety and ALL officers are trained to assume ALL encountered are armed.
Madison Co. State's Att. Tom Gibbons - strong support for CCW in his heavily populated area. Ban on carrying
is a failed experiment. Support increased in his area after carry was passed just across the river in
Missouri and seeing it did not create any problems there.
Pike Co. sheriff - Talked about the new poll out and how they must have left the 217 area code out off their
calling list because not only does Pike county have the opinion of "likely" voters, they actually voted and
85% of actual voters support CCW. If Chicago continues to oppose, why can't we go without them?
Officials from Peoria - this is the right time and the right thing to do. Same question about going without Chicago.
Tazwell Co. Sheriff - support widespread.
Stay at home mom - I want to be able to protect my children and when they are older I want them to be able
to protect themselves.
Dr. Wiffler - Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership - co-author with Dr. Tim Wheeler of "Keeping Your
Family Safe". Gave 12 reasons for CCW.
Lori Hamilton - Second Amendment Sisters - was asked by LaShawn Ford to present statistics on firearm deaths
and children. Did an effective job of presenting GunFacts.info material, especially that non-firearm
related fatalities far outnumber firearm related deaths but "we're not banning cars, draining our pools, or pulling our kids off the beaches."
Dr. Dan Mefford wrapped up the day with comments of wide spread support all across the state.
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The Illinois State Rifle Association is hosting a Chicago Firearm Permit Class (CFP)!
Date: Saturday, April 28, 2012
(classroom) FRAN’S - 7096 W State Route 17, Kankakee (815) 932-6986
(OUTDOOR range) ISRA Range in Bonfield, near Kankakee
½ miles NORTH OF IL 17 on WARNER BRIDGE ROAD
(which is also known as 7000W and County Line)
Course: Consists of 4 hours of classroom instruction and 1 hour of practical training at the firing range as required by the City of Chicago.
Requirements: Firearm Owner’s Identification Card (FOID).
Registration Deadline: April 25, 2012
Upon Completion Will Receive: State Certified Firearm Instructor Affidavit attesting to the completion of the firearm instruction and training as required by the City of Chicago & NRA Certificate of Completion of the First Steps Pistol Orientation.
For further information call (815) 635-3198
Date: Saturday, April 28, 2012
(classroom) FRAN’S - 7096 W State Route 17, Kankakee (815) 932-6986
(OUTDOOR range) ISRA Range in Bonfield, near Kankakee
½ miles NORTH OF IL 17 on WARNER BRIDGE ROAD
(which is also known as 7000W and County Line)
Course: Consists of 4 hours of classroom instruction and 1 hour of practical training at the firing range as required by the City of Chicago.
Requirements: Firearm Owner’s Identification Card (FOID).
Registration Deadline: April 25, 2012
Upon Completion Will Receive: State Certified Firearm Instructor Affidavit attesting to the completion of the firearm instruction and training as required by the City of Chicago & NRA Certificate of Completion of the First Steps Pistol Orientation.
For further information call (815) 635-3198
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The Illinois State Rifle Association is hosting a Chicago Firearm Permit Class (CFP)!
Date: Saturday, April 28, 2012
(classroom) FRAN’S - 7096 W State Route 17, Kankakee (815) 932-6986
(OUTDOOR range) ISRA Range in Bonfield, near Kankakee
½ miles NORTH OF IL 17 on WARNER BRIDGE ROAD
(which is also known as 7000W and County Line)
Course: Consists of 4 hours of classroom instruction and 1 hour of practical training at the firing range as required by the City of Chicago.
Requirements: Firearm Owner’s Identification Card (FOID).
Registration Deadline: April 25, 2012
Upon Completion Will Receive: State Certified Firearm Instructor Affidavit attesting to the completion of the firearm instruction and training as required by the City of Chicago & NRA Certificate of Completion of the First Steps Pistol Orientation.
For further information call (815) 635-3198
Date: Saturday, April 28, 2012
(classroom) FRAN’S - 7096 W State Route 17, Kankakee (815) 932-6986
(OUTDOOR range) ISRA Range in Bonfield, near Kankakee
½ miles NORTH OF IL 17 on WARNER BRIDGE ROAD
(which is also known as 7000W and County Line)
Course: Consists of 4 hours of classroom instruction and 1 hour of practical training at the firing range as required by the City of Chicago.
Requirements: Firearm Owner’s Identification Card (FOID).
Registration Deadline: April 25, 2012
Upon Completion Will Receive: State Certified Firearm Instructor Affidavit attesting to the completion of the firearm instruction and training as required by the City of Chicago & NRA Certificate of Completion of the First Steps Pistol Orientation.
For further information call (815) 635-3198
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^^Understood you don’t live in the city but those who do need the Chicago Firearm Permit in order to legally register a handgun there…
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The Shot Heard 'Round the World' Continues to Echo.
America became free and strong because of gun-toting patriots.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=50799
America became free and strong because of gun-toting patriots.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=50799
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Madison (WI) - The state Department of Justice issued its 100,000th concealed carry permit Friday! 
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Five bills currently pending in the Ohio General Assembly would allow permit holders...
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/...rss_local-news
On Friday morning, less than six months after Wisconsin Act 35 took effect...
http://www.beloitdailynews.com/news/...9bb2963f4.html
Poll: Are Michigan civilians safer if they can carry Tasers?
http://www.mlive.com/politics/index....C+MLive.com%29
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/...rss_local-news
On Friday morning, less than six months after Wisconsin Act 35 took effect...
http://www.beloitdailynews.com/news/...9bb2963f4.html
Poll: Are Michigan civilians safer if they can carry Tasers?
http://www.mlive.com/politics/index....C+MLive.com%29
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McDonough County (IL) residents aiming for concealed carry.
http://www.connecttristates.com/news...aspx?id=745372
(MI) Concealed gun survey 'bought and paid for by a radical gun-control group'.
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(MI) Concealed gun survey 'bought and paid for by a radical gun-control group'.
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State-by-state concealed carry laws: The good, the bad, and the ugly
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=50957
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