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Motor is fully forged 408 short block; heads and intake are/were Bone-Stock LS6; small 228/232 578/587 cam and Kooks LT no cats and Vararam as the only mods. So basically I have added about 50ci and a small cam over stock LS6. That's how you get a motor n/a that produces more TQ than HP. IIRC, it flat-lines over 400tq the entire dyno pull, very nice under the curve numbers.
N/A 408ci 430rwhp and 450rwtq
Dry approx 200 dual stage. (so far, no numbers with the 300hp shot)(look closely, it is really over 1000 lb/ft TQ, LOL, I win, LOL, nice 3rd stage...) 644rwhp and 717rwtq
This can be and will be an easy 800/800 motor as it was built to 1000hp specs.
Here's the closet sprayed dyno sheet I could find quickly. We have the 644/717 somewhere if someone really wants to see it.
...and here is the N/A dyno.
Robert
Last edited by Robert56@RNS; Jan 13, 2010 at 06:38 AM.
Jon what cam are you running? Your the only other person to have N/A torque higher than your HP. Just curious here because the norm is for mine to sit with higher TQ than HP by itself, usually, LOL. I just want to understand how yours is doing it?
As I previously stated a few months back...you need to have your car re-dynoed. That torque number is bogus,your dyno graph looked crazy. Oh,before you call me a hater...post up that dyno graph and let others commit on what they see!
Dave even before I saw your reply I was going to ask to see the dyno graph. The norm with a sprayed stock cube motor, if you spray at a low RPM you will get a nice big torque spike that settles down to realistic numbers real fast. Still however, it is what it is. I have plenty of those dyno sheets. A true torque monster will show the curves like mine do, no giant spike real low but rather builds to the TQ high point, via dual stage, or progressing. Other than giving misleading conclusions, a stock motor being sprayed that big down low is asking for problems. You can ask my stock LS6 rod why it bent with only a 685lb/ft spike at 3200rpm? Now with that said, Transam2002, I am not busting your ***** or trying to be an azz, because like I said I have done the same and claimed overall combined numbers at dyno shoot outs, and won, LOL, with stock motor and giant torque spikes.
Originally Posted by Kurtomac
well why have a dyno thread if you the OP dont understand the dyno game?
I posted my examples of how just the correction methods mess with numbers...so if everyone else is posting these...I guess I'll go with my highest dyno i had...the 483 rwhp 430rwtq...please update mine so i can feel good about myself
Originally Posted by Blu
This thread is pointless then especially if you don't even know what the terminology means. You can't have a list and mix and match all different dyno types correction factors etc and have it logically make sense to the newbie like yourself that don't know SAE from STD and Mustang Dyno from Dynojet.
Originally Posted by Kurtomac
wish everyone would post sae corrected numbers...i see some STD numbers...if we were allowed to play that game i would post my old dyno where i did 485rwhp uncorrected
Here's my take on the corrected numbers thing. I hate the corrected crap. My motor made this HP and torque on this day with this climate, period, end of story. I am not correcting my ETs so as to be comparative to other ETs with the same air, LOL. I will continue to stick with I ran this ET on this day uncorrected, and also ran these HP/TQ figures on this day uncorrected (though both dyno graphs I posted, IIRC, above are corrected?).
If we don't correct the ET, how will the corrected dyno numbers match up correctly, they won't.
Anyway, with all that said, I really don't think this is an absolute, your going to win a trophy type of list. It's just a general posting of ones numbers for comparison. Who cares if it's this dyno or that dyno, corrected or uncorrected, not me, really. Now the guys having issues with the original poster, start your own thread and state the absolute rules before anyone starts posting.
We had this type of thing happen with the Z06 Fast lists. The new C6 Z06 list is very strict, and if you don't follow exactly, you will not get listed, but everyone knows this from the get go. The C5 Z06 list is much less formal, mostly if you say you ran the time, that is good, your only cheating yourself if your lying. We did start asking for a slip if you were top ten, after one guy got caught with a bogus run, LOL. It is really hard to cheat around here, some pretty smart guys and they will catch the discrepancies.
Robert
Robert,the torque number that transam2002 posted is not from a typical nitrous spike. You would have to see the graph,it is just plain wacko. That is why that I request a re-post of the dyno sheet so that others could draw their own conclusions as to viability of the graph. As I suggested to him,have the car re-dynoed so that he would have a good graph with realistic numbers to work with.
Last edited by 98vettedave; Jan 13, 2010 at 01:28 PM.
Not sure it's needed, but to be safe, I use 100 octane plus the meth on this tune.
Thinking about putting in a new dual PCM that my tuner recently developed. One tune for race gas, one conservative tune on pump. Flip of a switch between the two.