IMPORTANT ELECTRICAL INFORMATION (Long!)





I have a very detailed ignition switch repair post. I think that your having an ignition switch that is starting to fail. Like I stated previously, battery circuit codes are not good!
Ive seen too many people lately who's C5 died and wont run cause the ignition switch failed. Check out this post:
- http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...ch-repair.html





after reading your statement " After numerous key cycles, the passenger window will roll down but then won't roll up. " I will recommend that you check this post out and make your own decision on if you should follow the procedure:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...ch-repair.html
Without taking some voltage readings,,,,it just a guess but a very logical one. This is becomming a very common issue.
ONCE you get the issues fixed,,,,,you will fine this car is WICKED COOL!

Bill
Check your terminals
Awesome post here. After reading every post in this thread I think that I might have an idea of what to look for. I have a 99 vert that I get an intermintent check engine light. When I run the codes I get a P0137 which if I'm right is the O2 sensor for the right bank behind the cat. Thinking it was the sensor but not wanting to buy one unless it's necessary, I changed the two sensors behind the cats from one side to the other thinking that it would now throw a code for the other bank. Not, I still get the same code. So now I'm assuming that it is more than likely the connector that has a bad connection in it. I've seen this code mentioned only once in this thread and am wondering if I'm headed down the right road to fixing this? Only other thing I can think of checking is the connectors to the PCM, as when I bought the car 3 years ago it had a dead battery and the stealership changed it before I picked it up and at that time I didn't know about the battery leaking issue so it's never been checked.
As a side note why does everyone say to run the diagnostics with the key on and engine off? I've cleared this particular code quite a few times as I was driving down the road, I guess I'm so used to it I just clear as soon as it comes on anymore. Thanks for any info you can give me.
Bob





Awesome post here. After reading every post in this thread I think that I might have an idea of what to look for. I have a 99 vert that I get an intermintent check engine light. When I run the codes I get a P0137 which if I'm right is the O2 sensor for the right bank behind the cat. Thinking it was the sensor but not wanting to buy one unless it's necessary, I changed the two sensors behind the cats from one side to the other thinking that it would now throw a code for the other bank. Not, I still get the same code. So now I'm assuming that it is more than likely the connector that has a bad connection in it. I've seen this code mentioned only once in this thread and am wondering if I'm headed down the right road to fixing this? Only other thing I can think of checking is the connectors to the PCM, as when I bought the car 3 years ago it had a dead battery and the stealership changed it before I picked it up and at that time I didn't know about the battery leaking issue so it's never been checked.
As a side note why does everyone say to run the diagnostics with the key on and engine off? I've cleared this particular code quite a few times as I was driving down the road, I guess I'm so used to it I just clear as soon as it comes on anymore. Thanks for any info you can give me.
Bob
If you suspect that the connector is bad, check the female pins using a spare MALE pin. This is the one I use::

The heater circuit for that sensor has a ground that MUST be 100% good. Chassis ground G-103 (below the brake master cylinder on top of the frame) is a stud / eyelet type ground. From that ground theres a braded wire that goes to G-105 (drivers side of the engine block above the oil filter housing. ) make sure that those grounds are clean and tight.
NEXT
With the key in the ON position (engine not running) read the voltage on fuse :
Under hood fuse center, Mini fuse# 15, OXY SEN.
There are to small test points on top of the fuse. Measure that to ground. It should be the same as the voltage on the battery terminals.
Clean those grounds, Post those readings.
Bill
Bill
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Bob
Never mind, just found the problem after reading the suggestion by ALPHAKNIGHT34. Sure enough, when I unplugged and reconnected both harnesses running through the boot to the passenger door, all my symptoms went away. Thanks also to Bill Curlee for his wonderful post on the ignition switch. I followed his suggestions on the grounds and ignition switch refinishing of the contacts and found three contacts burnt. One was at least 75% burnt and now that they are clean and the harness on the door nice and tight it's time to have some fun.... These cars are finikee aren't they???
Last edited by bmstockton; Aug 24, 2009 at 10:07 PM.
Never mind, just found the problem after reading the suggestion by ALPHAKNIGHT34. Sure enough, when I unplugged and reconnected both harnesses running through the boot to the passenger door, all my symptoms went away. Thanks also to Bill Curlee for his wonderful post on the ignition switch. I followed his suggestions on the grounds and ignition switch refinishing of the contacts and found three contacts burnt. One was at least 75% burnt and now that they are clean and the harness on the door nice and tight it's time to have some fun.... These cars are finikee aren't they???
WAY TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-f...ease-help.html
DIC codes
PCMP0300 engine mess fire detected (pending) current (immature)
and
unknown u1096 loss of comunecation with IPC ( history ) (imature)
PLEASE HELP ME , now i am in a big dilemma and i am lost , while the car is on the dyno and i am WOT to do a tune the car starts very smooth and accelerates great all the way up to about 4K RPM and some times 5K RPM and it cuts in a very strange way you can have a look at the video here under at the minute 1:01
You can see that something very strange happens and the check engine comes on for a moment and then disappears ?????????????????? :bang:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc3AiiiHO1k
Some thought was to a faulty Crank sensor, some a faulty Camshaft sensor, and some to faulty MAP sensor , when i did the DTC with the HP tuner it showed a miss fire but not permanent HELP
Here in video 2 you can see the tacho meter bouncing at about 5Krpm or so but the car did not CUT like it did the last couple of times but the tach bounced any gusses any takes HELP PLEASE
thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE9ae...layer_embedded
Last edited by sultan 2 ZR1 KSA; Aug 24, 2009 at 11:33 PM.





- Does the engine shut down completely or just miss a beat?
- If you run the engine up thru first, second, third and forth to red line on the tach, does it do the same thing??
If you just rev the engine to red line on the tach does it cut out.
Im trying to see if its speed or RPM dependent.
If the fuel is not being cut by the PCM, here are a few more things to check.
Next to the BCM (The left side) there are two thin Grey connectors. Those are the Class 2 serial buss STAR connectors.

All of the module serial communications go thru those connectors. Find the connector with three or four wires and remove the top of the connector. Its a shorting bar that connects all the wires together.
That connector controls the Left door control module, Right door control module and the seat control module, There are known issues in those wiring harness connectors. With that connector disconnected, those modules will be out of the circuit and we can eliminate that issue from the problem.
Check those things and get back to me.
I have a specific question, however. I'm having the infamous intermittent turn signal/emergency flasher problem. Since it only happens when there's a lot of moisture in the air, and goes away later in the day when the sun has warmed the car up, I'm guessing I've got an issue with the body ground where the turn signal flasher is grounded.
Can you point me to this particular body ground, as that is the one I'd like to attack first, especially with the NCM 15th Anniversary Caravan and Museum Celebration coming up next week. Hate to have to be giving hand signals all the way to Bowling Green.
Thank you.
Frank Hamilton
When I start the car, the code C1241 is there. But, after I drive for a little while (the time and speed varies) the warning lights start flashing (Service ABS, Service Active Handling, Service Traction System) and the following two codes come up:
C1228 - RR Excessive Wheel Speed Variation
C1235 - RR Wheel Speed Circuit Open or Shorted
I'm wondering if the warning lights have nothing to do with the C1241. When I took it to the stealership, they wanted to repair the steering gear coil. I wonder if something else is causing the warning lights?
Do you have any other recommendations? Could I have a RR wheel bearing issue?
Thanks.





Un-plug and inspect the MAGNASTEER coil connector. Make sure its clean and damage free. Other than that take a resistance reading on the coil. Im at carlisle and dont have access to my service manuals.
The wheel speed sensor is pretty much pullet proof. The connector however, sucks. The female pins spread and loose contact with the male pins and thats why you get those DTCs.
Heres a bad and good connector. The one on the right is really bad!!!:

Check those female pins!
BC
Thanks
recently been giving me alot of electrical trouble. ok here goes my memory for my key fobs goes nuts when i get in the car no matter how many times i reset it always the same thing the drivers mirror just goes straight up my i keep getting a 1431 code and my fuel gauge will randomly drop to complete E. also my blinkers will randomly not work but i hit the hazzard switch and it will twitch then work then my blinkers will work but right after that first twitch my active handling light is on also the other day my car was runnin like a dog had no power than above half throttle it took off foun d that my maf boot had come loose and had an air leak today the same thing had happened but no leak and everything was tight now it just runs like crap its really irritating i drive the car alot has 103k on it only code i get is po103 and po1431 any help would be GREATLY
recently been giving me alot of electrical trouble. ok here goes my memory for my key fobs goes nuts when i get in the car no matter how many times i reset it always the same thing the drivers mirror just goes straight up my i keep getting a 1431 code and my fuel gauge will randomly drop to complete E. also my blinkers will randomly not work but i hit the hazzard switch and it will twitch then work then my blinkers will work but right after that first twitch my active handling light is on also the other day my car was runnin like a dog had no power than above half throttle it took off foun d that my maf boot had come loose and had an air leak today the same thing had happened but no leak and everything was tight now it just runs like crap its really irritating i drive the car alot has 103k on it only code i get is po103 and po1431 any help would be GREATLY appreciated sorry for the bad grammer in a hurry also will read through post more and will check and clean all my grounds thanks
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