Awesome thank you so much!
Originally Posted by Zymurgy
(Post 1587949417)
Many have asked to have Constraints as a sticky thread. This post will be updated with a link each week to the most recent constraint thread. Older thread references will be kept so you can see a history of the constraints.
Constraints - September 25 for TPW of November 3 Constraints - September 18 for TPW of October 20 Constraints - September 11 for TPW of October 6 Constraints - September 4 - No Allocations this Week COLOR=black]Constraints - August 28 for TPW of October 6 Constraints - August 21 for TPW of October 6 Constraints - August 14 for TPW of September 15 Constraints August 7 - no allocations this week Constraints - July 31 for TPW of Aug 25 Constraints - July 24 |
Thank you!! :thumbs:
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Thank you. I will hopefully receive "the call" tomorrow. :cheers:
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subscribed thanks for doing this
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Thanks :cheers:
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
(Post 1587949417)
Many have asked to have Constraints as a sticky thread. This post will be updated with a link each week to the most recent constraint thread. Older thread references will be kept so you can see a history of the constraints.
Will there be an update today to this, or is Last Week's update the information for this week also? thanks! Steve |
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I truly appreciate this sticky... But you must know this is my crack and I need my weekly fix! lol Come on Z where is this weeks candy? Please!!!! I am jonesin... Doc |
Subscribing for updates. waiting for the convertible Z06 release!
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Originally Posted by 68RPOL71
(Post 1588007130)
Will there be an update today to this, or is Last Week's update the information for this week also? thanks!
Steve
Originally Posted by daveguy68
(Post 1588007264)
:iagree:
I truly appreciate this sticky... But you must know this is my crack and I need my weekly fix! lol Come on Z where is this weeks candy? Please!!!! I am jonesin... Doc Sorry guys, no info available yet. May be delayed until tomorrow. |
Thanks for keeping us updated.
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
(Post 1588008625)
Sorry guys, no info available yet. May be delayed until tomorrow.
Dave |
Updated, but nobody is going to like it. No allocations this week.
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ah **** no z06 allocation again ugh!..... 1st round people were dang lucky.
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:lurk::lurk::lurk::lurk:
I guess I'll be able to eat a lot of popcorn waiting on the Z06 A8! :toetap: Thanks for the updates. Very much appreciated. |
Originally Posted by time2run
(Post 1588012046)
:lurk::lurk::lurk::lurk:
I guess I'll be able to eat a lot of popcorn waiting on the Z06 A8! :toetap: Thanks for the updates. Very much appreciated. |
Zymurgy, I'm not as familiar with the order process as I want to be. What are the implications of 'no allocations this week'? I'm assuming it impacts the ordered units not yet scheduled for production.
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It affects those sitting at 1100. At 1100, all you've got is an order number. It may never get built. The next step is for your dealer to get an allocation and assign that allocation to your order. Within a few days of that happening, you will go to 2000 and then to 3000 very quickly. However, in order for the dealer to be able to assign your order to an allocation, the following must be true:
1) The dealer has an allocation 2) You're "next in line" at your dealer 2) That allocation must include any constrained items in your order If all those conditions are met, the dealer assigns the allocation to your order and you are on your way. If the dealer has an allocation and it does not allow a constrained item in your order, they should contact you to see if you want to change your order. If you do not change your order, they will go to the next person on their waiting list and repeat this until they get a match (or they'll just order one for dealer stock if they can't match a customer order). Allocations and constraints have no meaning once you are at 2000 or beyond. |
Originally Posted by Zymurgy
(Post 1588014963)
It affects those sitting at 1100. At 1100, all you've got is an order number. It may never get built. The next step is for your dealer to get an allocation and assign that allocation to your order. Within a few days of that happening, you will go to 2000 and then to 3000 very quickly. However, in order for the dealer to be able to assign your order to an allocation, the following must be true:
1) The dealer has an allocation 2) You're "next in line" at your dealer 2) That allocation must include any constrained items in your order If all those conditions are met, the dealer assigns the allocation to your order and you are on your way. If the dealer has an allocation and it does not allow a constrained item in your order, they should contact you to see if you want to change your order. If you do not change your order, they will go to the next person on their waiting list and repeat this until they get a match (or they'll just order one for dealer stock if they can't match a customer order). Allocations and constraints have no meaning once you are at 2000 or beyond. |
I have been told by my dealer that my Z06 allocation will be accepted tomorrow 10/16 so it appears that we will be making headway this week!
Does anyone know if constrained options are granted 1st come first serve (meaning early Thursday order submission on workbench) or is it a completely random process. |
Originally Posted by OH THREE Z
(Post 1588048894)
I have been told by my dealer that my Z06 allocation will be accepted tomorrow 10/16 so it appears that we will be making headway this week!
Does anyone know if constrained options are granted 1st come first serve (meaning early Thursday order submission on workbench) or is it a completely random process. |
Originally Posted by OH THREE Z
(Post 1588048894)
I have been told by my dealer that my Z06 allocation will be accepted tomorrow 10/16 so it appears that we will be making headway this week!
Does anyone know if constrained options are granted 1st come first serve (meaning early Thursday order submission on workbench) or is it a completely random process. |
Originally Posted by Zymurgy
(Post 1588049643)
Constrained options are granted to your dealer along with the allocation. It has nothing to do with order submission timing. If your dealer gets an allocation, and that allocation allows any items on constraint that are in your order then, and only then, can the dealer assign your order to that allocation. Your order could be entered tomorrow or it could have been entered 2 months ago. That makes no difference. Some dealers enter orders as soon as the customer specifies their configuration, some wait until they get an allocation (with matching constraints) and then enter the order. Again, makes no difference.
Thanks for your info/help |
Originally Posted by OH THREE Z
(Post 1588050807)
Okay, trying to understand this... so when I finalize my order tomorrow I will know at that point what options I can pair with my car? Or will it be Tuesday morning before I know what I can or can not get. My dealer stated that we will submit a back up order so I assume it is the latter. I am ordering a non Z07 with CFZ and the painted standard roof being my potential pitfalls.
Thanks for your info/help |
Originally Posted by Zymurgy
(Post 1588052056)
Tomorrow your dealer will know exactly what his allocations are and what constrained items he can order. I assume that you are the first person in line for a Z06 at this dealer.
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Order with constraints
I am in mid-west Florida and had a decent conversation with the dealership today about my order. I had not gotten the full scoop regarding constraints. The dealer has 18 orders, several which are Z06.
My order is a Torch Red Z51 (constraint) 3LT with the visible CF roof (constraint), red calipers with black wheels and red interior. The inventory manager believes that it will be no issue getting the car ordered....at some point! I just have no idea how long this is going to be. This is my first Corvette and I hope that I actually get the car!!!! Sitting, and trying to be patient in Florida...... |
Originally Posted by mike-ss1
(Post 1588107962)
I am in mid-west Florida and had a decent conversation with the dealership today about my order. I had not gotten the full scoop regarding constraints. The dealer has 18 orders, several which are Z06.
My order is a Torch Red Z51 (constraint) 3LT with the visible CF roof (constraint), red calipers with black wheels and red interior. The inventory manager believes that it will be no issue getting the car ordered....at some point! I just have no idea how long this is going to be. This is my first Corvette and I hope that I actually get the car!!!! Sitting, and trying to be patient in Florida...... This is my first new Corvette, 3LT, Z51, Laguna blue convertible with black interior and MSRC. It sat at 1100 for six weeks before it finally jumped to 3000 today. It's an experience, and I've learned a great deal. Reading some of the threads about dealers giving me a line, etc had me thinking I should just cancel my order, but I'm finding that patience is the most important thing you need. I wasn't about to give up on a Z51 simply because there was a constraint against it. For the amount of money I'm paying, and this being my first new vette, I am determined to get what I want. |
Originally Posted by mike-ss1
(Post 1588107962)
I am in mid-west Florida and had a decent conversation with the dealership today about my order. I had not gotten the full scoop regarding constraints. The dealer has 18 orders, several which are Z06.
My order is a Torch Red Z51 (constraint) 3LT with the visible CF roof (constraint), red calipers with black wheels and red interior. The inventory manager believes that it will be no issue getting the car ordered....at some point! I just have no idea how long this is going to be. This is my first Corvette and I hope that I actually get the car!!!! Sitting, and trying to be patient in Florida...... We'll all get a Z06 eventually. I want them to tell me that I'll have one in the spring of 2015 however, not "eventually" that could me 2016, 2017... |
Originally Posted by JackTripper
(Post 1588000146)
Thank you. I will hopefully receive "the call" tomorrow. :cheers:
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Just wondering. Is there any report for 11/20?
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Originally Posted by ckwhite
(Post 1588311010)
Just wondering. Is there any report for 11/20?
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OK, So I order a car yesterday. It is a Z51 which is on constraint, it will have the carbon fiber roof, which is on constraint, as well as chrome wheels and carbon fiber dash, which I don't think either is on constraint. When would you predict the car will be built?
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Originally Posted by 08Indy
(Post 1588343585)
OK, So I order a car yesterday. It is a Z51 which is on constraint, it will have the carbon fiber roof, which is on constraint, as well as chrome wheels and carbon fiber dash, which I don't think either is on constraint. When would you predict the car will be built?
Depends on your dealer's allocations. Depends on your dealer's allocations. Depends on your dealer's allocations. Depends on your dealer's allocations. Shall I say that again? |
Not sure if your reply was trying to be helpful or not, but I'm not quite sure how I would know anything about how many allocations my dealer has, except to tell you they are one of the biggest in terms of corvette sales. They have roughly 70 on their lot. The dealers name is Coughlin, if that helps. Ordered the car yesterday and the Event Description states 1100 Preliminary Order Accepted. I'm just trying to learn more about the process. Thanks
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Originally Posted by 08Indy
(Post 1588344046)
Not sure if your reply was trying to be helpful or not, but I'm not quite sure how I would know anything about how many allocations my dealer has, except to tell you they are one of the biggest in terms of corvette sales. They have roughly 70 on their lot. The dealers name is Coughlin, if that helps. Ordered the car yesterday and the Event Description states 1100 Preliminary Order Accepted. I'm just trying to learn more about the process. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
(Post 1588344378)
You'll be fine with Coughlin. They have plenty of allocations.
-M |
Placed order with local dealer on 10-31-2014 and still no allocation. I am 1st in line at the dealer, and a repeat customer. Hard to understand why GM won't provide the allocations when dealers have deposits and pre-sold orders from customers who want to buy the new C7.
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Originally Posted by nmvettec7
(Post 1588347028)
Placed order with local dealer on 10-31-2014 and still no allocation. I am 1st in line at the dealer, and a repeat customer. Hard to understand why GM won't provide the allocations when dealers have deposits and pre-sold orders from customers who want to buy the new C7.
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Originally Posted by nmvettec7
(Post 1588347028)
Placed order with local dealer on 10-31-2014 and still no allocation. I am 1st in line at the dealer, and a repeat customer. Hard to understand why GM won't provide the allocations when dealers have deposits and pre-sold orders from customers who want to buy the new C7.
I would rather them limit the number of orders to the number of cars they can produce as they are doing. Alternatively, they could just accept everyone's orders and but then have them sit in limbo until there's room on the line - which could take months or even into the following model year. The way they are doing it, at least once an order is picked up by GM, they are moving through the system quickly now that production is up and running. As a consumer, there are options. One can always order from a dealer that has allocations (there have been several on here advertising open allocations for M7) or you can choose to be loyal to the dealership that has worked with you in the past and wait until they get an open allocation. If you are first in line at your dealership, they CAN tell you if they have any allocations for 2015. They may not be able to tell you when GM will let them use that allocation, but they DO know if they have one. Verify with your dealer to make sure they are getting an allocation, and don't buy a story about them now knowing, they were all told their allocations months ago. |
I was told my dealer had an allocation, but they didn't mention they did not have an allocation for two options. They did however show me the constraint percentages, but that didn't explain how often they receive allocations for those items. Just because an option says 50% doesn't mean that 1 out of every 2 allocation will have that option. So make sure you also ask if they have allocations for all your selected options.
The dealer told me they either order for their inventory or they can let the allocation go and another dealer can pick it up. I believe allocations are given out once a week. The issue I have with this is that isn't a sold order. They are building cars to sit on lots when my order doesn't even get picked up. First American car order for me and it's very frustrating. I'm surprised that Chevy doesn't care if we purchase local or not. Purchasing local builds dealership relationships and strengthens our local economy. Just wondering how bad Detroit would be if nobody purchased locally. |
Originally Posted by dlparsons
(Post 1588348834)
It's as simple as this. Supply and Demand. First, if they limit supply, there will be more demand. Second, they can only produce so many cars on the line, they have to look at how many they can produce and then they use Dealership seniority (how many cars did they order in the past) to determine who will get the largest piece of the pie. That's a version of customer loyalty which I can respect as a business person. Doesn't necessarily mean I like it, but I can respect that.
I would rather them limit the number of orders to the number of cars they can produce as they are doing. Alternatively, they could just accept everyone's orders and but then have them sit in limbo until there's room on the line - which could take months or even into the following model year. The way they are doing it, at least once an order is picked up by GM, they are moving through the system quickly now that production is up and running. As a consumer, there are options. One can always order from a dealer that has allocations (there have been several on here advertising open allocations for M7) or you can choose to be loyal to the dealership that has worked with you in the past and wait until they get an open allocation. If you are first in line at your dealership, they CAN tell you if they have any allocations for 2015. They may not be able to tell you when GM will let them use that allocation, but they DO know if they have one. Verify with your dealer to make sure they are getting an allocation, and don't buy a story about them now knowing, they were all told their allocations months ago. |
I ordered my loaded (but only 1LT) Z51 on 10/23 from Florida's largest Vette dealer. No other constraints, as I wanted glass top. It is still at 1100. A few days before I stopped at the dealership to check out colors, etc. and they had about 30 new Vettes and a couple more truckloads arriving. Salesman said they had been arriving in as little as 4 wks from date of order, if constraints weren't an issue. Did say they had some non-glass topped base cars that had set in the order bank up to 8 wks before being picked up because of top constraints.
Day after my order showed up at 1100, I was told that all of a sudden there seemed to be difficulty in getting allocations. To date they claim they haven't had any Z-51 allocations for several weeks, but that it appears that GM will open up allocations shortly. Their inventory has also diminished quite a lot. There were comments on this forum from another very large dealer that backed up this comment from my dealer. From what I can determine,, large dealers with numerous Z06 allocations during the last several weeks, have not gotten many, or in some instances, any other slots. While I thought about just purchasing a vehicle from the dealer's inventory, and not getting a couple options I wanted, I chose to wait for the color and magnetic ride control, that I really want. Compromising with a car purchase that most of us will keep for several years, may seem OK at the time, but it won't be long before you will regret your decision. I am taking "Patience Pills" and going to be thankful for my decision. I am also planning all my tweaks and mods!!!!!!!:woohoo: Happy Thanksgiving! :cheers: |
Originally Posted by EcoBrick Bob
(Post 1588349580)
I ordered my loaded (but only 1LT) Z51 on 10/23 from Florida's largest Vette dealer. No other constraints, as I wanted glass top. It is still at 1100. A few days before I stopped at the dealership to check out colors, etc. and they had about 30 new Vettes and a couple more truckloads arriving. Salesman said they had been arriving in as little as 4 wks from date of order, if constraints weren't an issue. Did say they had some non-glass topped base cars that had set in the order bank up to 8 wks before being picked up because of top constraints.
Day after my order showed up at 1100, I was told that all of a sudden there seemed to be difficulty in getting allocations. To date they claim they haven't had any Z-51 allocations for several weeks, but that it appears that GM will open up allocations shortly. Their inventory has also diminished quite a lot. There were comments on this forum from another very large dealer that backed up this comment from my dealer. From what I can determine,, large dealers with numerous Z06 allocations during the last several weeks, have not gotten many, or in some instances, any other slots. While I thought about just purchasing a vehicle from the dealer's inventory, and not getting a couple options I wanted, I chose to wait for the color and magnetic ride control, that I really want. Compromising with a car purchase that most of us will keep for several years, may seem OK at the time, but it won't be long before you will regret your decision. I am taking "Patience Pills" and going to be thankful for my decision. I am also planning all my tweaks and mods!!!!!!!:woohoo: Happy Thanksgiving! :cheers: |
Lorenzo Bomnin Chevrolet in Coral Gables (Miami) claims to be the largest in FL. I tried to buy a Z06 from them and got nowhere. I've read nothing good about them so caveat emptor.
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Can someone provide the link or post # to the chart of current constraints. I can't seem to locate the latest list. Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by nmvettec7
(Post 1588351247)
Can someone provide the link or post # to the chart of current constraints. I can't seem to locate the latest list. Thanks in advance.
LOL. If were any closer it would bite you. Go to the first post in this thread. That post has links to all of the weekly constraint reports. |
Is anyone having a hard time getting the C7 Torch Red with Torch Red body color painted removeable top?
I see the constraint is at 35% which doesn't tell me much, as I am not quite sure how these constraints work and what the number 35% really represents. Any insight would be helpful. |
Originally Posted by nmvettec7
(Post 1588352639)
Is anyone having a hard time getting the C7 Torch Red with Torch Red body color painted removeable top?
I see the constraint is at 35% which doesn't tell me much, as I am not quite sure how these constraints work and what the number 35% really represents. Any insight would be helpful. |
Originally Posted by Zymurgy
(Post 1588352517)
LOL. If were any closer it would bite you. Go to the first post in this thread. That post has links to all of the weekly constraint reports.
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Originally Posted by fdxpilot
(Post 1588352781)
You have the patience of a saint!
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Originally Posted by nmvettec7
(Post 1588352928)
I just didn't see it......OK? Now I know where it is for the future.
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The largest Corvette allocation for 2014 was Stingray Chevrolet in Plant City. I would assume they are the largest for the 15 model year also.
Plant City is about 10 mi east of Tampa and near Lakeland and not far from Orlando, right on I-4. They may not be the biggest overall Chevy dealer in FL, but they currently have 15 Chevy (Holden) SS, so specialize in performance vehicles. Their Z06 allocation is over 50, but since I wasn't interested in one, I have no idea if they are all sold, or what mix of sticks, autos and option packages they will be getting for customers. Interestingly, most of their current inventory is 1 & 2 LT, with a nice mix of both base cars and Z51. They were very nice to deal with and are not at all high pressure. I highly recommend them, considering I am a first-time purchaser at their location. |
what about build week 12/22/14? dealer called me today and gave me that week.
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My understanding is the plant shuts down on Dec 22nd or 23rd, and resumes production on Jan 5th, 2015.
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if you look at page 684
Originally Posted by nmvettec7
(Post 1588365913)
My understanding is the plant shuts down on Dec 22nd or 23rd, and resumes production on Jan 5th, 2015.
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i just looked at page 682 of order tracking thread and CHEVY CUST SVC gave kghia and janicept a build week of 12/22/14 also. as i said im ok with a later build date- dealer called me with that date and i have never called him sence the day i orderd the car for the tracking number.
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Assuming no Constraints Report on 11/27 due to Turkey Day. Right?
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12/4 Constraints?
The Z06 w/A8 is now being accepted! |
Ordered a 1LT in Torch Red with matching body color roof. Order went in yesterday (12/03/2014) placed by the dealer and I have tracking number. I see constraint says 35%.......which doesn't mean much to me.
Question? What is the likelihood that my order will go through without any problems for the matching Torch Red roof. I just can't figure out how this contraint deal works. 35% of what? |
Originally Posted by nmvettec7
(Post 1588406283)
Ordered a 1LT in Torch Red with matching body color roof. Order went in yesterday (12/03/2014) placed by the dealer and I have tracking number. I see constraint says 35%.......which doesn't mean much to me.
Question? What is the likelihood that my order will go through without any problems for the matching Torch Red roof. I just can't figure out how this contraint deal works. 35% of what? 35% means only 35% of the orders with that option will be accepted. So, you have about a 1 in 3 chance of the car with that option being accepted for production. |
Originally Posted by BOBSZ06
(Post 1588406209)
12/4 Constraints?
The Z06 w/A8 is now being accepted! |
Originally Posted by BOBSZ06
(Post 1588406209)
12/4 Constraints?
The Z06 w/A8 is now being accepted!
Originally Posted by docf
(Post 1588406771)
Bob how or where did you get the info regarding A8 orders. I went to my dealership yesterday to see the 6 Z06's that had come in and was told he believed the A8's would be accepted today or next Thursday depending which was on the 2 week cycle. I have been at 1100 since Sept 9th.Hope this is finally the case. Yesterday was the first time I actually have seen a Z06/Z07 and it was magnificent. Truthfully I am glad I ordered a stage l at this time as do not intend to track it and the body works tend to distract. This may change in time, just like the crazy thing I did back in 68 and put a luggage rack on my 66 427 with no intention of ever carrying luggage,but it was a trend. Thanks.
Confused yet? |
Originally Posted by BOBSZ06
(Post 1588406209)
12/4 Constraints?
The Z06 w/A8 is now being accepted! |
Originally Posted by Zymurgy
(Post 1588406814)
Some dealers have indicated they were able to input orders with the A8. Others have said the system still did not allow the A8.
Confused yet? |
Originally Posted by BOBSZ06
(Post 1588406350)
35% means only 35% of the orders with that option will be accepted.
So, you have about a 1 in 3 chance of the car with that option being accepted for production. 35% of what? Torch Red? Yellow? Crystal Red? Laguna Blue? Night Racing Blue? Black? Shark Gray? etc. How would you know that only 1 of 3 Torch Red orders with matching roof body color would be accepted? The term 35% could cover only 1 or perhaps 2 colors. I think these constraints need to be much more specific in nature for the consumer to understand. |
Originally Posted by nmvettec7
(Post 1588407201)
Still doesn't anwser my question:
35% of what? Torch Red? Yellow? Crystal Red? Laguna Blue? Night Racing Blue? Black? Shark Gray? etc. How would you know that only 1 of 3 Torch Red orders with matching roof body color would be accepted? The term 35% could cover only 1 or perhaps 2 colors. I think these consraints need to be much more specific in nature for the consumer to understand. BTW, GM isn't interested in making this stuff easy for consumers to understand; the info's intended audience is dealers. |
My dealer, who only has 1 allocation and is mine, called me this morning and said he got his allocation and was able to order my A8 Z06 today which he originally put into the system 9/1/14
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Constraints for 12/11?
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Originally Posted by BOBSZ06
(Post 1588461142)
Constraints for 12/11?
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
(Post 1588462145)
Just posted.
He says his dealership (he's an owner) has the fastest turnover of Corvettes of any in the Region. Once he gets one, it's gone! I believe him. |
12/11/14 CONSTRAINTS
RPO............Description.............. ..................Availability Z51............Performance Package............................50% C2Q............Dual Roof Package (Body Color and Transparent)..0% C2Z............Visible Carbon Fiber Roof......................20% C2M............Dual Roof Package (Visible CF and Transparent).20% CFA............Standard roof (painted)........................40% Z07............Z06 Performance package........................45% CFV & Z07......Carbon Fiber Ground Effects and Z07 Perf Pkg ..No constraint listed CFZ - Z07......Carbon Fiber Ground Effects minus Z07 Perf Pkg.25% CFV............Carbon Fiber Ground Effects....................15% M5U............8 Speed Auto Transimssion......................75% Target Production Week of January 26, 2015 for non-Z06. Target Production week of January 19, 2015 for Z06. |
Originally Posted by Zymurgy
(Post 1587949417)
Many have asked to have Constraints as a sticky thread. This post will be updated with a link each week to the most recent constraint thread. Older thread references will be kept so you can see a history of the constraints.
Thank you. |
Originally Posted by PetroniDE
(Post 1588471094)
Can you provide a quick synopsis what these constraint reports mean? I see features and percentages. Don't know why they mean.
Thank you. When dealers are given their allocations, they know exactly which allocations allow which constraint items. |
Originally Posted by Zymurgy
(Post 1588406814)
Some dealers have indicated they were able to input orders with the A8. Others have said the system still did not allow the A8.
Confused yet? Do you know if M5U 8 speed auto transmission, which is on constraint at 75%, is used in both the Stingray and the Z06. I was informed that the Z06 uses a different A8. |
Originally Posted by Red-C6 of Jax
(Post 1588482503)
Zymurgy
Do you know if M5U 8 speed auto transmission, which is on constraint at 75%, is used in both the Stingray and the Z06. I was informed that the Z06 uses a different A8. |
Originally Posted by Zymurgy
(Post 1588483307)
All I can tell you is that both the Stingray and the Z06 use the same RPO - M5U.
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Seems odd that a manufacturer would hold up sales, delivery, and profit because they don't have enough painted roofs......that would not seem an onerous job, just paint more roofs? What am I missing?
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Originally Posted by Rodmo
(Post 1588486955)
Seems odd that a manufacturer would hold up sales, delivery, and profit because they don't have enough painted roofs......that would not seem an onerous job, just paint more roofs? What am I missing?
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Originally Posted by XTRME 94
(Post 1588487019)
They would have to have those roofs to paint. Other than the laxon roof, all roofs are carbon fiber. Paint or exposed. Supplier just hasn't been able to keep up.
Hokey dokey got it.......hopefully the can put some pressure on their suppilers. |
Latest constraint report posted
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
(Post 1588471460)
The % indicates the nationwide % of orders for this cycle that will be allowed to have the given option. So, for example the standard roof at 40% means that on a nationwide basis, only 40% of the allocations given to dealers will include the standard roof. The results for an individual dealer may vary substantially from this 40% figure. For example, they may get lucky and have their only allocation allow the painted roof (so, 100% for them). On the other hand, they might be unlucky and get no painted roofs out of 4 allocations (0% for them). It seems that the larger dealers tend to get a slightly higher percentage and smaller dealers tend to get a smaller percentage.
When dealers are given their allocations, they know exactly which allocations allow which constraint items. When in the process, if at all, does a dealer know that part of a particular order cannot be filled? Thanks, Ken |
Originally Posted by probono
(Post 1588546069)
Is it reasonable to think that if a dealer takes an order, and they are being on the up and up, that they know a particular order, for them, is subject to constraint? For example, does a dealer know, when they take an order which includes a painted roof, that they have an allocation which includes a painted roof?
When in the process, if at all, does a dealer know that part of a particular order cannot be filled? Thanks, Ken Second, every two weeks or so, GM has a consensus cycle. This is where GM tells each dealer what cars they can order and what options are allowed. It is accompanied by a constraint report which shows any options with limited ordering, expressed as a percentage of total production. So if the CFA standard roof is constrained at 40%, then no more than 40 of every 100 coupes produced can have that roof option. The rest must be either the visible Carbon Fiber roof, which is also usually constrained, or the CC3 transparent roof. The production slots the dealers get are called allocations, and will come with specific numbers on constrained options. For example, "3 coupes, 2 may have CFA painted roof, none may have C2Z Carbon Fiber roof. Only 1 may have Z51 package. 1 Z06, either coupe or convertible, may not have Z07 package." How many allocations your dealer gets will depend on his yearly expected allocation, as well as his unsold inventory of vettes. If it's less than 20 cars for the year, they may not get an allocation during every consensus, much less one with constrained options. If it's only one car, and the option is constrained at less than 50%, than there is a less than even chance he can order that option on the car. He won't know until the Thursday that the cycle starts. Everything gets finalized over the weekend, and by Tuesday afternoon, all the orders matched to allocations move to Status 2000, "Order accepted by GM." If your order has options he can't order, you can either change your order (if the dealer gives you that option,) wait for the next cycle, or go elsewhere. The dealer can go down his waiting list to find an order that does match the constraints, order for dealer stock, or pass on the allocation. Hope this gives you a little insight. |
Thanks fdxpilot. Great summary.
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Best summary I've heard!:thumbs: 3300 with a TPW of 1/19 and counting!
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Originally Posted by fdxpilot
(Post 1588546822)
Ok, here's a little bit of a primer on Corvette ordering 101. First of all, realize that any dealer authorized to deal in vettes (there are some training and equipment requirements, so not all Chevy dealers are authorized,) can place an order in the system at any time for any of the four vette models, with any orderable options. This gets a six character order number and an order status of 1100, order entered by dealer. This means nothing beyond the order has been correctly typed into the computer.
Second, every two weeks or so, GM has a consensus cycle. This is where GM tells each dealer what cars they can order and what options are allowed. It is accompanied by a constraint report which shows any options with limited ordering, expressed as a percentage of total production. So if the CFA standard roof is constrained at 40%, then no more than 40 of every 100 coupes produced can have that roof option. The rest must be either the visible Carbon Fiber roof, which is also usually constrained, or the CC3 transparent roof. The production slots the dealers get are called allocations, and will come with specific numbers on constrained options. For example, "3 coupes, 2 may have CFA painted roof, none may have C2Z Carbon Fiber roof. Only 1 may have Z51 package. 1 Z06, either coupe or convertible, may not have Z07 package." How many allocations your dealer gets will depend on his yearly expected allocation, as well as his unsold inventory of vettes. If it's less than 20 cars for the year, they may not get an allocation during every consensus, much less one with constrained options. If it's only one car, and the option is constrained at less than 50%, than there is a less than even chance he can order that option on the car. He won't know until the Thursday that the cycle starts. Everything gets finalized over the weekend, and by Tuesday afternoon, all the orders matched to allocations move to Status 2000, "Order accepted by GM." If your order has options he can't order, you can either change your order (if the dealer gives you that option,) wait for the next cycle, or go elsewhere. The dealer can go down his waiting list to find an order that does match the constraints, order for dealer stock, or pass on the allocation. Hope this gives you a little insight. |
Originally Posted by tbasco 6
(Post 1588597591)
Very good explanation. When does the next cycle start?
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Originally Posted by fdxpilot
(Post 1588600356)
Just my guess, but Jan 8. They start on Thursdays, but I don't think they will have one on New Year's Day.
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Originally Posted by 11B250
(Post 1588650492)
Yep... should be the 8th and 22nd. Hopefully macmulkin can put my order in on one of those dates. They received my deposit on the 22nd :willy:
Joe |
Originally Posted by docf
(Post 1588559412)
Best summary I've heard!:thumbs: 3300 with a TPW of 1/19 and counting!
Hope there's no changes or delays.:D |
Originally Posted by docf
(Post 1588559412)
Best summary I've heard!:thumbs: 3300 with a TPW of 1/19 and counting!
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I really appreciate the angst of waiting...I'm in the same boat, but just interested in knowing how many of you guys were on the HD "waiting lists" during the 90s?
I had a '91, '93, '97 and '99 HD in the day...hype and hyperbole and all, but somehow it evolved...AND...even bought them at the unheard discount... When a company gets itself into the "we're special" mode, the sales are...well...special. Ken |
Finally got my allocation this am. Has anyone seen the constraints??
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Originally Posted by jcuff
(Post 1588653108)
I am in the same boat. My deposit is with MacMulkin and I am hoping the order goes through Thursday (fingers crossed). Good luck!
Joe If not this one, I'm pretty certain we'll make the next one. If anything it would be a month. Then we're looking at march time.... |
Originally Posted by 11B250
(Post 1588672950)
Hopefully this month brother!
If not this one, I'm pretty certain we'll make the next one. If anything it would be a month. Then we're looking at march time.... |
Originally Posted by hookem79
(Post 1588671293)
Finally got my allocation this am. Has anyone seen the constraints??
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Did the Bi-Weekly Thursday GM order entry cycle start today or is it next Thursday, the 15th? I signed the order paperwork for a Z51 Laguna Blue Vert on 12/31 and salesman had said Thursday the 8th was their order day but he was off today so I can't confirm. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by JohnRI
(Post 1588676079)
Did the Bi-Weekly Thursday GM order entry cycle start today or is it next Thursday, the 15th? I signed the order paperwork for a Z51 Laguna Blue Vert on 12/31 and salesman had said Thursday the 8th was their order day but he was off today so I can't confirm. Thanks!
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My dealer emailed me his allocations yesterday which included a Z06 just waiting to hear if the order is accepted. I don't know what the current constraints are.
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Copy of part of the email
Subject: 161005 - January 2015 Consensus Cycle 1 Begins Consensus Cycle 1 begins Thursday at 7 a.m. ET. Please submit Consensus in Order Workbench before the cycle closes on Monday at 9 p.m. ET. CHEVC MY EST SHIP CHEVSS 2015 0 CAM 2015 0 CAMCON 2015 0 CRUZE 2015 0 IMPALA 2015 2 MALIBU 2015 0 SONIC 2015 0 SPARK 2015 0 VOLT 2015 1 VET 2015 0 Z06 2015 1 TOTAL CHEVC 4 ---------------------- CHEVT MY EST SHIP TRAX 2015 0 CITYXP 2015 1 EQUINX 2015 0 CREGLD 2015 1 CDBLLD 2015 0 CCRULD 2015 13 CREGHD 2015 0 CDBLHD 2015 0 CCRUHD 2015 2 COLRDO 2015 3 TRAVRS 2015 5 TAHOE 2015 10 SUBURB 2015 0 EXPVAN 2015 0 TOTAL CHEVT 35 ---------------------- |
My order is going in next Thursday, the15th, along with 2 others. Dealer has 8 allocations according to the salesman.
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